You are literally doing God's work Efrat! Keep going and don't listen to the detractors. We need as many voices of truth as possible now...and yours is quickly emerging as one of the most important! נצח ישראל לא ישקר
Just watched the podcast. As a fellow observer of signal, dot connector (in and between silos), skeptic and a bit of a lone wolf, I felt I was in the room with two brilliant/courageous friends. You’re both spot on questioning how October 7th could have happened. The same Evil Cabal that brought us Covid, mRNA vaccines, January 6th, the Ukraine War, Lahaina, Canadian Fires, etc.. have much bigger plans for us over the next 12 months. If America and Israel fall, humanity may never be the same.
I appreciated Bret Weinstein's self-reflective mode in being careful to point out when he doesn't know a thing (a material fact). But I wish he'd given Ms. Fenigson a little more share of the time to speak. It wasn't always clear to me (and I'm sure to other listeners) exactly what inner turmoil Mr. Weinstein was dealing with, as he rarely specified. Instead, there was a lot of hand-wringing angst on display, which is perhaps also expected given the urgent situation but may not always be helpful, in my opinion.
I thought Ms. Fenigson found a perfect balance between speculation and factual knowledge that is rare, these days. She was eminently qualified to make the claims she made and wasn't losing focus with so-called "opinion."
I’ve been passing along the link to this podcast on a number of Substack articles the last few days as one of the most, if not the most, important, informative, balanced and enlightening discussions. I admire you, Efrat. Your commitment and your courage.
One such question is always "cui bono?" The conversation on Hamas' formation was intriguing. We have certainly seen any number of false flags and similar schemes, from the Reichstag Fire to Operation Northwoods. Might an embattled Netanyahu, certain parties in key governments/intelligence agencies, and the military-industrial complex have been motivated to facilitate such an attack? Perhaps not, but given the glaring, largely unexplained security failures that took place, it is a question worth asking.
Thank you for speaking up with a sense of compassion, courage and honesty. God have mercy on all people who stand for truth, peace and justice.
I feel compelled to point out, however, the term "terrorist" and "terror organisation" has become meaningless in context of this discussion. Terrorism is defined as "the calculated use of violence to create a general climate of fear in a population and thereby to bring about a particular political objective."
As far as I can tell, acts of terror are being unleashed by warmongers, regardless of which side they are on. The Lord taught that you shall know the tree by its fruit. He did not say, you shall know the tree by the colour of its flag, its uniform or its ethnic lineage.
It’s the same model everywhere. Governments fund means to terrorize their citizens and maintain a military state and force people to accept rules of war.
It is admitted on the public record that Hamas was created by MOSAD and of course the US . Dr. Shiva has an expose on the creation of the Zionist State of Israel.
Very organic interview, with excepcional moments of lucidity, thanks to both. In these times you Efrat are a rock: clear, calm, in balance. At the end, when the reflection of Weinstein went into the elogy of "West" traditions, something began to make noise to me, but perhaps it is the result that my english capability is so limited.... but "the West culture" seems to be a construction of just those powers that-would-be-so-wonderful-if-never-exist, and did spread some cultural values but a lot of opression, suffering, colonial imperialism, massonery, the strange values of catholic church and jesuits, etc.... It would be so great to return to the direct contact to earth and heart (just the same letters in english, so beautiful): the cultures who develop their lives with nature, they are the richest people, they have the living connection with the cosmos and their forces. Something that now, for us, is so urgent to learn and rescue (and this give the vision to see what is behind the curtain of the illusion).
The introduction gives a somewhat Critical approach to the Palestine situation. It posits that the Palestinians are victims of colonization, in spite of their leaders' refusal to accept the existence of Israel, which would make them eternal enemies of Israel who cannot be allowed the freedoms of a peaceful people.
While Bret is extremely thoughtful about the whole situation, he poses only two major ways of living: The Western way and the Old way. These are not the only two ways. Other ways, though, are not well known and not well studied.
One third way involves a way to understand and handle those "bad people." Our first challenge is to have people in positions of authority learn this way and attempt to practice it. The second challenge would be to overcome resistance to this effort. And the third challenge would be to see if we can actually make it work. Even if this way is workable, I am not certain that it can be made to work in this world.
If anyone wants to find out about work being done to improve our ability to uncover human secrets I suggest the work of Farsight Institute. There are other people working on this, but Courtney Brown's group is the most available that I am aware of.
The Law of Three operates in the universe. Affirming Denying Arising. There cannot be a solution to this very serious issue for the entire world that is Israel-Palestine without the third, Arising.
“Just as it takes three independent strands of hair to make a braid, so it takes three individual lines of force to make a new arising. Until this third force enters, the other two forces remain at impasse. These three lines of action are free of moral judgment and they are neither “good” or “bad” (Cynthia Bourgeault, 2013, p. 26).
Cynthia also says:
“Denying (second force) is never an obstacle to be overcome but always a legitimate and essential component of the new manifestation… The “enemy” is never the enemy but a necessary part of the “givens” in any situation, and solutions will never work that have as their goal the elimination of second force” (p. 29).
The ugly truth revealed! Not only did Egypt's intelligence repeatedly warn Israel and Netanyahu about "Something Big" attack by Hamas but Netanyahu intentionally ignored the repeated warnings and threatened Egypt from exposing it. Netanyahu Ignored Repeated Warning's of Hamas Attack by Egypt https://www.bitchute.com/video/rXLwE8XVHrXv/
You are literally doing God's work Efrat! Keep going and don't listen to the detractors. We need as many voices of truth as possible now...and yours is quickly emerging as one of the most important! נצח ישראל לא ישקר
Thanks Michael 🙏🏻♥️
Please look at this https://substack.com/@michaelginsburg/note/c-42232095?r=yylj
Just watched the podcast. As a fellow observer of signal, dot connector (in and between silos), skeptic and a bit of a lone wolf, I felt I was in the room with two brilliant/courageous friends. You’re both spot on questioning how October 7th could have happened. The same Evil Cabal that brought us Covid, mRNA vaccines, January 6th, the Ukraine War, Lahaina, Canadian Fires, etc.. have much bigger plans for us over the next 12 months. If America and Israel fall, humanity may never be the same.
Thank you...
It was a great interview and the reason I subscribed here. Brava! (I watched via Rumble: https://rumble.com/v3oewxb-the-israel-attacks-beyond-the-obvious-with-efrat-fenigson.html)
I appreciated Bret Weinstein's self-reflective mode in being careful to point out when he doesn't know a thing (a material fact). But I wish he'd given Ms. Fenigson a little more share of the time to speak. It wasn't always clear to me (and I'm sure to other listeners) exactly what inner turmoil Mr. Weinstein was dealing with, as he rarely specified. Instead, there was a lot of hand-wringing angst on display, which is perhaps also expected given the urgent situation but may not always be helpful, in my opinion.
I thought Ms. Fenigson found a perfect balance between speculation and factual knowledge that is rare, these days. She was eminently qualified to make the claims she made and wasn't losing focus with so-called "opinion."
Very good interview Efrat. Very proud of you 👏 You are the Israeli Joan d'Arc
She sure is. Bravo and very well done.
thank you. I'm a simple human wanting good.
Good stuff.
Thanks Efrat, I admire your courage, great interview..!!
Thank you...
I’ve been passing along the link to this podcast on a number of Substack articles the last few days as one of the most, if not the most, important, informative, balanced and enlightening discussions. I admire you, Efrat. Your commitment and your courage.
Just watched this interview, and it was a breath of fresh air. I have grown to expect this level of intellectual intrepidness from Brett and Heather, and now I am glad to find another such courageous truth-seeker! Powerful people have learned what buttons to push to manipulate the masses long ago (from Juvenal calling out "panem et circenses" to the West's post-Bernaysian PR Reality©), so we must always remain vigilant, ask tough questions of the narrative, and face harsh truths as they present themselves.
One such question is always "cui bono?" The conversation on Hamas' formation was intriguing. We have certainly seen any number of false flags and similar schemes, from the Reichstag Fire to Operation Northwoods. Might an embattled Netanyahu, certain parties in key governments/intelligence agencies, and the military-industrial complex have been motivated to facilitate such an attack? Perhaps not, but given the glaring, largely unexplained security failures that took place, it is a question worth asking.
Dear Apollo :)
Many thanks for leaving your feedback here, and thank you for watching our conversation.
Thank you for speaking up with a sense of compassion, courage and honesty. God have mercy on all people who stand for truth, peace and justice.
I feel compelled to point out, however, the term "terrorist" and "terror organisation" has become meaningless in context of this discussion. Terrorism is defined as "the calculated use of violence to create a general climate of fear in a population and thereby to bring about a particular political objective."
As far as I can tell, acts of terror are being unleashed by warmongers, regardless of which side they are on. The Lord taught that you shall know the tree by its fruit. He did not say, you shall know the tree by the colour of its flag, its uniform or its ethnic lineage.
Here is an other interesting piece on Israel funding Hamas, https://x.com/va_shiva/status/1713554732902707586?s=20
It’s the same model everywhere. Governments fund means to terrorize their citizens and maintain a military state and force people to accept rules of war.
It is admitted on the public record that Hamas was created by MOSAD and of course the US . Dr. Shiva has an expose on the creation of the Zionist State of Israel.
https://x.com/va_shiva/status/1713334032241664232?s=20
Very organic interview, with excepcional moments of lucidity, thanks to both. In these times you Efrat are a rock: clear, calm, in balance. At the end, when the reflection of Weinstein went into the elogy of "West" traditions, something began to make noise to me, but perhaps it is the result that my english capability is so limited.... but "the West culture" seems to be a construction of just those powers that-would-be-so-wonderful-if-never-exist, and did spread some cultural values but a lot of opression, suffering, colonial imperialism, massonery, the strange values of catholic church and jesuits, etc.... It would be so great to return to the direct contact to earth and heart (just the same letters in english, so beautiful): the cultures who develop their lives with nature, they are the richest people, they have the living connection with the cosmos and their forces. Something that now, for us, is so urgent to learn and rescue (and this give the vision to see what is behind the curtain of the illusion).
Thanks again, take care.
The introduction gives a somewhat Critical approach to the Palestine situation. It posits that the Palestinians are victims of colonization, in spite of their leaders' refusal to accept the existence of Israel, which would make them eternal enemies of Israel who cannot be allowed the freedoms of a peaceful people.
While Bret is extremely thoughtful about the whole situation, he poses only two major ways of living: The Western way and the Old way. These are not the only two ways. Other ways, though, are not well known and not well studied.
One third way involves a way to understand and handle those "bad people." Our first challenge is to have people in positions of authority learn this way and attempt to practice it. The second challenge would be to overcome resistance to this effort. And the third challenge would be to see if we can actually make it work. Even if this way is workable, I am not certain that it can be made to work in this world.
If anyone wants to find out about work being done to improve our ability to uncover human secrets I suggest the work of Farsight Institute. There are other people working on this, but Courtney Brown's group is the most available that I am aware of.
The Law of Three operates in the universe. Affirming Denying Arising. There cannot be a solution to this very serious issue for the entire world that is Israel-Palestine without the third, Arising.
“Just as it takes three independent strands of hair to make a braid, so it takes three individual lines of force to make a new arising. Until this third force enters, the other two forces remain at impasse. These three lines of action are free of moral judgment and they are neither “good” or “bad” (Cynthia Bourgeault, 2013, p. 26).
Cynthia also says:
“Denying (second force) is never an obstacle to be overcome but always a legitimate and essential component of the new manifestation… The “enemy” is never the enemy but a necessary part of the “givens” in any situation, and solutions will never work that have as their goal the elimination of second force” (p. 29).
Speaking of beyond the obvious:
https://electronicintifada.net/content/israeli-forces-shot-their-own-civilians-kibbutz-survivor-says/38861
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https://t.me/eyeswideopenchat/1542
The ugly truth revealed! Not only did Egypt's intelligence repeatedly warn Israel and Netanyahu about "Something Big" attack by Hamas but Netanyahu intentionally ignored the repeated warnings and threatened Egypt from exposing it. Netanyahu Ignored Repeated Warning's of Hamas Attack by Egypt https://www.bitchute.com/video/rXLwE8XVHrXv/
IDF veteran goes thermonuclear against Netanyahu, reveals Hamas attack was “inside job.” https://www.bitchute.com/video/drG0ZhZwwV2R/