Discussing economies that drive wars, governments affinity to crises, parallels between Marketing and Economics, the upcoming financial collapse, gold, bitcoin & more.
Thank you for a great discussion, and very informative!
I loved the quip about "the Fed fighting inflation, is like the arsonists fighting the fires they cause". Just like "governments keeping people safe", and other fairy tales. 🪄🐇🎩🎅🏿🦄
“Chaos isn’t a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail, and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some are given a chance to climb, but refuse. They cling to the realm, or love, or the gods…illusions. Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is. But they’ll never know this. Not until it’s too late.”
If they can take your gold they can outlaw the Bitcoin and then gum up the computer networks. This combination could make Bitcoin practically unusable to us. They are capable of anything when their power is threatened. The only solution is to rebel and take away their power over us. The longer we wait the more difficult it will become.
How does Dr. Onge figure that Bitcoin cannot be seized by government? All a government has to do is make law forbidding the use of bitcoin or close parts of the Internet so that Bitcoin cannot be accessed, as China and other nations do. Don't think they can do it? See 2020-2023 and COVID mandates including physical control of the actual bodies of US citizens by threat. Dictators gonna dictate.
If you knew how bitcoin works you knew they can't seize it... it's in your own custody. not in any bank. to seize it they'd have to go door to door and torture people and that's not probable.
It seems to me that the Globalists WANT a war... for several reasons: (1) To reduce the population, (2) To distract from a number of their nefarious agendas, such as (a) their stealthy moves to implement the UN's SDG's i.e. taking away all our freedoms without us noticing, (b) The revelations of covid tyrannies are coming out so thick-&-fast, if they don't do something soon, we will ALL wake up and NOBODY will trust them with anything anymore..
Which response? to you saying that talking about money is out of sync?
Well, if you weren't trying to criticize me, I did indeed found your comment criticizing of my choice of topic, and I suggested that you deal with what you think you should deal with, no hard feelings - I really don't think everyone should deal with the same topics these days (and always), but we should definitely respect other people's choices to deal with whatever they choose to.
one person does not know better for another, what they should deal with.
And I'm trying to answer all comments I get, it's a lot of work but I give attention to almost all of them, respectfully.
Well, why would any leadership, wanting taxes for either real stuff like welfare for all, or war by the military industrial complex, or mass murder by the WHO, accept any free currency helping people to withstand robbery by inflation?
"crypto" is not bitcoin... in any case bitcoin doesn't need approval from any government and millions use it around the world even when it's not regulated.
your question show you don't know bitcoin much... you don't need a "dark web" to use bitcoin, it's permission-less, on the open internet. making it illegal does not mean you won't be able to use it. it's like banning rumble in france for example... people use VPN.
Half true, Efrat. Apparently I am getting credits from Odysee for posting and watching, but I have not connected my account https://odysee.com/@valsamverkan to any bank account.
If I use anything like bitcoin, I would want that to be something like GNU Taler.
I see that as a good way to keep integrity for people at the same time as taxes are paid into a budget, in the future hopefully to benefit people in all nations, instead of corruption creating death.
Hmm... Maybe I could theoretically get away with it with GNU+Linux and a VPN that will refuse to expose me, maybe not, since processors unfortunatley have backdoors. Rob Braxman has taught me many things about IT security. It is very easy to make mistakes.
However, I do not have to worry about getting caught. I try my best to follow the law, and when I am not happy with it, then I try to change it democratically. For me, that is a principle I want to live by, since I believe in the democratic principle.
I do not want to be a criminal, and I want to follow democratically made decisions.
The only way I will "break the law" is when democracy is broken and the legal system is broken, and then only in order to restore it, and that would rather be to uphold it. Looks like it could be necessary very soon in Israel. I love you much. Take good care!
I suggest you stock food in a secret bunker! Hide from the psychos who kill innocent children and women! No need for crypto or gold.
to me, focus on money (however an important tool for the Archons & their minions to steer all of us towards their utopia / our dystopia) is out of sync at this point in time
so why are you here commenting to me/this? you can go deal with what you think is important, and I'll do as I see fit. right? each to their own, and mutual respect.
in my life, btw, it's very important to understand money and know how to protect my hard earned savings. I guess we have different priorities in life which is fair enough.
Thank you for a great discussion, and very informative!
I loved the quip about "the Fed fighting inflation, is like the arsonists fighting the fires they cause". Just like "governments keeping people safe", and other fairy tales. 🪄🐇🎩🎅🏿🦄
Lol yes that’s a clear precise analogy ha?!
“Chaos isn’t a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail, and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some are given a chance to climb, but refuse. They cling to the realm, or love, or the gods…illusions. Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is. But they’ll never know this. Not until it’s too late.”
― George R.R. Martin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zV0f3vmdro
I recommend watching the full interview, it's very good and informative, great quote Efrat, Yah bless <3
Thank you for that Mart
If they can take your gold they can outlaw the Bitcoin and then gum up the computer networks. This combination could make Bitcoin practically unusable to us. They are capable of anything when their power is threatened. The only solution is to rebel and take away their power over us. The longer we wait the more difficult it will become.
How does Dr. Onge figure that Bitcoin cannot be seized by government? All a government has to do is make law forbidding the use of bitcoin or close parts of the Internet so that Bitcoin cannot be accessed, as China and other nations do. Don't think they can do it? See 2020-2023 and COVID mandates including physical control of the actual bodies of US citizens by threat. Dictators gonna dictate.
If you knew how bitcoin works you knew they can't seize it... it's in your own custody. not in any bank. to seize it they'd have to go door to door and torture people and that's not probable.
They can stop you from being able to use it. They have in other countries. And what if companies quit accepting it?
are you talking about bitcoin? they can't stop you from using it - it's peer to peer.
companies quit accepting it? in china where it's illegal people use it heavily - for example.
Yes. All they have to do is shut down that part of the Internet.
It seems to me that the Globalists WANT a war... for several reasons: (1) To reduce the population, (2) To distract from a number of their nefarious agendas, such as (a) their stealthy moves to implement the UN's SDG's i.e. taking away all our freedoms without us noticing, (b) The revelations of covid tyrannies are coming out so thick-&-fast, if they don't do something soon, we will ALL wake up and NOBODY will trust them with anything anymore..
Original Social Engineering Sin
https://www.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/original-social-engineering-sin
wondering how to value your response; clear, belligerent or something else
Which response? to you saying that talking about money is out of sync?
Well, if you weren't trying to criticize me, I did indeed found your comment criticizing of my choice of topic, and I suggested that you deal with what you think you should deal with, no hard feelings - I really don't think everyone should deal with the same topics these days (and always), but we should definitely respect other people's choices to deal with whatever they choose to.
one person does not know better for another, what they should deal with.
And I'm trying to answer all comments I get, it's a lot of work but I give attention to almost all of them, respectfully.
Nice to see you again, Efrat. For how long will free crypto be legal? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_cryptocurrency_by_country_or_territory
Well, why would any leadership, wanting taxes for either real stuff like welfare for all, or war by the military industrial complex, or mass murder by the WHO, accept any free currency helping people to withstand robbery by inflation?
"crypto" is not bitcoin... in any case bitcoin doesn't need approval from any government and millions use it around the world even when it's not regulated.
If it was illegal to use them, would you use them anyway? Where? The dark web?
your question show you don't know bitcoin much... you don't need a "dark web" to use bitcoin, it's permission-less, on the open internet. making it illegal does not mean you won't be able to use it. it's like banning rumble in france for example... people use VPN.
Half true, Efrat. Apparently I am getting credits from Odysee for posting and watching, but I have not connected my account https://odysee.com/@valsamverkan to any bank account.
If I use anything like bitcoin, I would want that to be something like GNU Taler.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Taler
I see that as a good way to keep integrity for people at the same time as taxes are paid into a budget, in the future hopefully to benefit people in all nations, instead of corruption creating death.
Hmm... Maybe I could theoretically get away with it with GNU+Linux and a VPN that will refuse to expose me, maybe not, since processors unfortunatley have backdoors. Rob Braxman has taught me many things about IT security. It is very easy to make mistakes.
However, I do not have to worry about getting caught. I try my best to follow the law, and when I am not happy with it, then I try to change it democratically. For me, that is a principle I want to live by, since I believe in the democratic principle.
I do not want to be a criminal, and I want to follow democratically made decisions.
"Categorical imperative" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorical_imperative
"Golden Rule" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Rule
The only way I will "break the law" is when democracy is broken and the legal system is broken, and then only in order to restore it, and that would rather be to uphold it. Looks like it could be necessary very soon in Israel. I love you much. Take good care!
I suggest you stock food in a secret bunker! Hide from the psychos who kill innocent children and women! No need for crypto or gold.
to me, focus on money (however an important tool for the Archons & their minions to steer all of us towards their utopia / our dystopia) is out of sync at this point in time
we'll solve that when we've stopped the killing
first things first
https://x.com/WarClandestine/status/1725257332890771857?s=20
so why are you here commenting to me/this? you can go deal with what you think is important, and I'll do as I see fit. right? each to their own, and mutual respect.
in my life, btw, it's very important to understand money and know how to protect my hard earned savings. I guess we have different priorities in life which is fair enough.